Comments on: Assault at marriage rally http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/ religion, activism, hospitality Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:11:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: John Hosty http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-49149 John Hosty Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:16:26 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-49149 In response to Sharilee, I must say that the sidewalk is fine, and can be checked by anyone who wishes to verify this truth. If you go to her site, or any other that tries to defend Cirignano, you'll see how many different stories his supporters give. The people supporting Mrs. Loy however, have all stated the same thing. One eyewitness to this debockle is Rich Nangle, writer for the Worcester Telegram. He was not on either side, he was simply there to report what happened. Larry Cirignano was angry at seeing Mrs. Loy in his crowd, and reacted without thinking. Now he needs to suffer the ramifications of his actions. In response to Sharilee, I must say that the sidewalk is fine, and can be checked by anyone who wishes to verify this truth. If you go to her site, or any other that tries to defend Cirignano, you’ll see how many different stories his supporters give. The people supporting Mrs. Loy however, have all stated the same thing. One eyewitness to this debockle is Rich Nangle, writer for the Worcester Telegram. He was not on either side, he was simply there to report what happened.

Larry Cirignano was angry at seeing Mrs. Loy in his crowd, and reacted without thinking. Now he needs to suffer the ramifications of his actions.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-19449 Kevin Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:36:48 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-19449 The date for the hearing on the charge of violating Sarah Loy's Civil Rights is set for April 2nd. The WPD has one video they're reviewing, they don't have the second which needs to be identified. Details http://worcester.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/14731.php The date for the hearing on the charge of violating Sarah Loy’s Civil Rights is set for
April 2nd. The WPD has one video they’re reviewing, they don’t have the second which
needs to be identified.

Details
http://worcester.indymedia.org/news/2007/02/14731.php

]]> By: Mike http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-11091 Mike Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:03:47 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-11091 Sharilee, thanks for your comment. I've been to probably a dozen demonstrations at Worcester City Hall, not one of which had a permit. I wouldn't think Sarah would need a permit to be there. I'm not the one to judge whether her presence was preventing your own, permitted demonstration. It's good to hear you had a video crew there. Did they document the behavior of the pro-gay-marriage folks? Does this mean they have footage of whatever Mr. Cirignano did? Do they have footage of Ms. Loy preventing your demonstration from occurring? Sharilee, thanks for your comment.

I’ve been to probably a dozen demonstrations at Worcester City Hall, not one of which had a permit. I wouldn’t think Sarah would need a permit to be there. I’m not the one to judge whether her presence was preventing your own, permitted demonstration.

It’s good to hear you had a video crew there. Did they document the behavior of the pro-gay-marriage folks? Does this mean they have footage of whatever Mr. Cirignano did? Do they have footage of Ms. Loy preventing your demonstration from occurring?

]]> By: sharilee http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-11085 sharilee Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:03:49 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-11085 Mike, we DID talk to the police, numerous times before the rally began. They ignored our requests to keep the two groups separate. Ms Loy did not have a permit to be on City Hall property, so she should have known better than to push her way through the rally crowd in order to get to center stage. No, I don't condone violence. But the non-partisan bystanders I've heard from said there was no violence. At best, she tripped and fell because the walkway was in terrible shape. Ms Loy is welcome to have her own rally on the topic on another day. And I promise you, we won't interfere. The odd thing about these protestors is that they talk about Christian love and end up spending their time shouting obscenitites to our supporters. We had a video crew on hand and were recording the whole time. I can't believe the nasty talk I heard coming from them. I'm glad I didn't bring my daughter with me. Mike, we DID talk to the police, numerous times before the rally began. They ignored our requests to keep the two groups separate. Ms Loy did not have a permit to be on City Hall property, so she should have known better than to push her way through the rally crowd in order to get to center stage. No, I don’t condone violence. But the non-partisan bystanders I’ve heard from said there was no violence. At best, she tripped and fell because the walkway was in terrible shape.

Ms Loy is welcome to have her own rally on the topic on another day. And I promise you, we won’t interfere. The odd thing about these protestors is that they talk about Christian love and end up spending their time shouting obscenitites to our supporters. We had a video crew on hand and were recording the whole time. I can’t believe the nasty talk I heard coming from them. I’m glad I didn’t bring my daughter with me.

]]> By: Mike http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-11077 Mike Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:46:42 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-11077 <blockquote>Do not beat people with a club until they submit to your religious indoctrinations and think exactly the way you do</blockquote> Hmmmm, this seems like a substantial exaggeration. Nobody was hit by a club. And if there is a pattern of aggression amongst the anti-gay-marriage folks at their rallies, I am not aware of it. It seems much more likely that this is a case of a guy losing his temper, not an object lesson that "That's what happens if you're a conservative, you hit people" or "That's what happens to liberals, they get knocked down." The political sides could just as easily have been reversed. <blockquote>Take your Bible and thump it some place else.</blockquote> Note that this very blog is about Bible thumping (explicit or implied). Me, I <em>love</em> Bible thumping.

Do not beat people with a club until they submit to your religious indoctrinations and think exactly the way you do

Hmmmm, this seems like a substantial exaggeration. Nobody was hit by a club. And if there is a pattern of aggression amongst the anti-gay-marriage folks at their rallies, I am not aware of it. It seems much more likely that this is a case of a guy losing his temper, not an object lesson that “That’s what happens if you’re a conservative, you hit people” or “That’s what happens to liberals, they get knocked down.” The political sides could just as easily have been reversed.

Take your Bible and thump it some place else.

Note that this very blog is about Bible thumping (explicit or implied). Me, I love Bible thumping.

]]> By: dale http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-11053 dale Mon, 18 Dec 2006 07:34:24 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-11053 Fascism is on the march. The Catholic Church is once again in lock step with the brown-shirt and jack-booted skull crackers. A Theocracy is not a Democracy - go practice your religion in your church. Do not beat people with a club until they submit to your religious indoctrinations and think exactly the way you do - we are not all Dominionists Reconstructionists or lemmings. Take your Bible and thump it some place else. Mr.Larry Cirignano you should be arrested, indicted, tried, and incarcerated for physical assault against that woman. What kind of man beats up a woman ? Fascism is on the march. The Catholic Church is once again in lock step with the brown-shirt and jack-booted skull crackers. A Theocracy is not a Democracy – go practice your religion in your church. Do not beat people with a club until they submit to your religious indoctrinations and think exactly the way you do – we are not all Dominionists Reconstructionists or lemmings. Take your Bible and thump it some place else. Mr.Larry Cirignano you should be arrested, indicted, tried, and incarcerated for physical assault against that woman. What kind of man beats up a woman ?

]]> By: Dave McMahon http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/comment-page-1/#comment-11011 Dave McMahon Sun, 17 Dec 2006 18:42:22 +0000 http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/12/17/assault-at-marriage-rally/#comment-11011 Outrageous! I am sickened by this news. Anyone who knows Sarah knows how thoughtful and dedicated she is. Also, they picked the wrong person to mess with. I hope criminal charges are forthcoming - the whole thing reminds me of the time Zitomersky shoved that addict and AIDS worker to the ground. That sort of violence does not solve anything, and I hope this fool gets his just desserts in court. Outrageous! I am sickened by this news. Anyone who knows Sarah knows how thoughtful and dedicated she is. Also, they picked the wrong person to mess with. I hope criminal charges are forthcoming – the whole thing reminds me of the time Zitomersky shoved that addict and AIDS worker to the ground. That sort of violence does not solve anything, and I hope this fool gets his just desserts in court.

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