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> <channel><title>Comments on: 508 #17: Clean Water</title> <atom:link href="http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/</link> <description>&#34;When things speed up hierarchy disappears and global theater sets in.&#34; --Marshall McLuhan</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:46:19 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163879</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:56:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163879</guid> <description>@Tracy: Glad it worked. If anyone else has feedback on the lo-fi version, lemme know. I could make it even smaller, but at some point the sound will get unlistenable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tracy: Glad it worked. If anyone else has feedback on the lo-fi version, lemme know. I could make it even smaller, but at some point the sound will get unlistenable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tracy</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163843</link> <dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:45:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163843</guid> <description>Hey, that works real time! Thanks!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, that works real time! Thanks!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tracy</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163841</link> <dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:42:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163841</guid> <description>I haven&#039;t. I will, though, and I&#039;ll get back to you!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t. I will, though, and I&#8217;ll get back to you!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163492</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163492</guid> <description>Tracy: Have you tried the lo-fi versions? I&#039;m curious as to how long they take to download.
Lo-fi 508:
http://del.icio.us/delnieve/508_16kb</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy: Have you tried the lo-fi versions? I&#8217;m curious as to how long they take to download.</p><p>Lo-fi 508:<br
/> <a
href="http://del.icio.us/delnieve/508_16kb" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/delnieve/508_16kb</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tracy</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163480</link> <dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:40:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163480</guid> <description>Mike,
I just wish there were some way for me to listen regularly without tying up our phone line for hours. Those of us who still use dial-ups are just sort of out of luck on it, which is too bad, because it sounds like your conversations are great!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br
/> I just wish there were some way for me to listen regularly without tying up our phone line for hours. Those of us who still use dial-ups are just sort of out of luck on it, which is too bad, because it sounds like your conversations are great!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mike</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-163041</link> <dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-163041</guid> <description>Dave Winer: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/01/11/theDebateAboutTheWorthOfPo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The debate about the worth of podcasting&lt;/a&gt;
Doc Searls: &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/12/improved-listening/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Improved listening&lt;/a&gt;
The Internet Archive download stats seem to be working again, and it looks like 35 people listened to the last 508. So whether or not I can make money at it, would I get together with my friends on a Friday morning if 35 people were willing to come listen to us? Absolutely. And doing the podcast is easier than organizing an event like that. But if 35 people got together to talk about the City in person, I wouldn&#039;t end up talking for 1/3 of the time, more like 1/30 of the time, and so the conversation would probably be a lot better. People always talk about participation inequality on the net. I think about 10% of the listeners have posted a comment at some point, which is outstanding, and some have even blogged responses to the show. It&#039;s a start, but if I had any goal for the next 4 months of the podcast (besides making it more interesting and relevant) it would be to bring more people into the conversation.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Winer: <a
href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/01/11/theDebateAboutTheWorthOfPo.html" rel="nofollow">The debate about the worth of podcasting</a></p><p>Doc Searls: <a
href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/2008/01/12/improved-listening/" rel="nofollow">Improved listening</a></p><p>The Internet Archive download stats seem to be working again, and it looks like 35 people listened to the last 508. So whether or not I can make money at it, would I get together with my friends on a Friday morning if 35 people were willing to come listen to us? Absolutely. And doing the podcast is easier than organizing an event like that. But if 35 people got together to talk about the City in person, I wouldn&#8217;t end up talking for 1/3 of the time, more like 1/30 of the time, and so the conversation would probably be a lot better. People always talk about participation inequality on the net. I think about 10% of the listeners have posted a comment at some point, which is outstanding, and some have even blogged responses to the show. It&#8217;s a start, but if I had any goal for the next 4 months of the podcast (besides making it more interesting and relevant) it would be to bring more people into the conversation.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: nisa</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-162722</link> <dc:creator>nisa</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-162722</guid> <description>On Indymedia:
&quot;City Hall is simply too full of hypocrites. Ask the city manager or the council about issues concerning, police complaint records, issues concerning fire or police unions, the Roosevelt museum or blues club at Union Station, private business dealing with code regs or even about the cable contract, and all of a sudden the City seems an awful lot like the EPA of contention. City Hall is full of inside deals, do what we say attitude, spiteful retribution, and controlling power mongers. Who are they all kidding?
Now, hitting up the Feds for support is nothing more than a smoke screen to hide a shell game. In the end the same taxpayer will foot the bill. What is needed are regulatory controls to prevent manufacturers from selling poisonous or toxic products. Stronger regs are also needed in pharmaceutical pricing, health insurance, telecommunications, and any manufacturing that produces something dangerous to the environment or an individual’s health. Charge these cash cow companies not the tax paying little guy. Why is there no one with guts enough to take the needed stance?
God we need some real leadership.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Indymedia:<br
/> &#8220;City Hall is simply too full of hypocrites. Ask the city manager or the council about issues concerning, police complaint records, issues concerning fire or police unions, the Roosevelt museum or blues club at Union Station, private business dealing with code regs or even about the cable contract, and all of a sudden the City seems an awful lot like the EPA of contention. City Hall is full of inside deals, do what we say attitude, spiteful retribution, and controlling power mongers. Who are they all kidding?<br
/> Now, hitting up the Feds for support is nothing more than a smoke screen to hide a shell game. In the end the same taxpayer will foot the bill. What is needed are regulatory controls to prevent manufacturers from selling poisonous or toxic products. Stronger regs are also needed in pharmaceutical pricing, health insurance, telecommunications, and any manufacturing that produces something dangerous to the environment or an individual’s health. Charge these cash cow companies not the tax paying little guy. Why is there no one with guts enough to take the needed stance?<br
/> God we need some real leadership.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jeff</title><link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/comment-page-1/#comment-161928</link> <dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2008/01/11/508-017/#comment-161928</guid> <description>The city&#039;s committee on public safety issued a total of 44 reports to the city council this past week.  There were so many reports that they had to spread them across two agenda item numbers, 18 and 19, because there are only 26 letters in the alphabet to designate agenda number sub-items.
When I first noticed how many items the committee on public safety had submitted for council consideration, my only thought was how many times all these items required Konnie Lukes to say, &quot;all those in favor?...  opposed?...  so voted&quot;
Now, after listening to the podcast, I see this blitz of bureaucratic bullshit as a tactic to prevent the immanentization of the eschaton.
Here&#039;s a link to the Journal of the City Council for 1-8-08:
http://www.ci.worcester.ma.us/ccocalendars/City%20Council/2008/20080108.htm</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city&#8217;s committee on public safety issued a total of 44 reports to the city council this past week.  There were so many reports that they had to spread them across two agenda item numbers, 18 and 19, because there are only 26 letters in the alphabet to designate agenda number sub-items.</p><p>When I first noticed how many items the committee on public safety had submitted for council consideration, my only thought was how many times all these items required Konnie Lukes to say, &#8220;all those in favor?&#8230;  opposed?&#8230;  so voted&#8221;</p><p>Now, after listening to the podcast, I see this blitz of bureaucratic bullshit as a tactic to prevent the immanentization of the eschaton.</p><p>Here&#8217;s a link to the Journal of the City Council for 1-8-08:<br
/> <a
href="http://www.ci.worcester.ma.us/ccocalendars/City%20Council/2008/20080108.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ci.worcester.ma.us/ccocalendars/City%20Council/2008/20080108.htm</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
