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		<title>Comment on Cargo cult activism by Scott Schaeffer-Duffy</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2010/03/10/cargo-cult-activism/comment-page-1/#comment-657372</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Schaeffer-Duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every nonviolent action should be evaluated for aspects that were good and aspects that could be improved. Gandhi called nonviolence &quot;an experiment in truth.&quot; It is not static, but that does not mean that we cannot learn from previous experience. Some of the tactics and much of the wisdom of the civil rights movement, anti-Vietnam War movement, anti-nuclear power movement... can and should transfer to new issues and circumstances. Then again, creativity breathes new life into action. We don&#039;t want to reinvent the wheel or make classic mistakes over and over. We also don&#039;t want to use language and tactics which spoke to previous generations and are now archaic, unclear, or, worst of all, incomprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every nonviolent action should be evaluated for aspects that were good and aspects that could be improved. Gandhi called nonviolence &#8220;an experiment in truth.&#8221; It is not static, but that does not mean that we cannot learn from previous experience. Some of the tactics and much of the wisdom of the civil rights movement, anti-Vietnam War movement, anti-nuclear power movement&#8230; can and should transfer to new issues and circumstances. Then again, creativity breathes new life into action. We don&#8217;t want to reinvent the wheel or make classic mistakes over and over. We also don&#8217;t want to use language and tactics which spoke to previous generations and are now archaic, unclear, or, worst of all, incomprehensible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hooked on Running by Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished Born to Run on my vacation- what a fantastic book.  (and I&#039;m a biker not a runner.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished Born to Run on my vacation- what a fantastic book.  (and I&#8217;m a biker not a runner.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on How to make a canvas bag by Kristin</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2005/11/12/canvas-bag/comment-page-1/#comment-652340</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it!  Yes, these are the easiest instructions I&#039;ve found for bags online.  I used a thriftstore table cloth.  So there were lots of finished edges to make it really easy.  Thanks for keeping it simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it!  Yes, these are the easiest instructions I&#8217;ve found for bags online.  I used a thriftstore table cloth.  So there were lots of finished edges to make it really easy.  Thanks for keeping it simple!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zhèng Bǎnqiáo (1693/1765), eco-socialist by Kaihsu Tai</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2007/06/27/zheng-banqiao/comment-page-1/#comment-650285</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaihsu Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Richard,

John Seymour is the leading intellectual heir of William Cobbett.

Land-value tax is in force now somewhere in the world due to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pieandcoffee.org/2006/07/16/sunyatsen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sun Yat-sen&lt;/a&gt;.

Karl Marx dealt with your 2.4 with the slightly different approach of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commodity fetish&lt;/a&gt;, reaching a similar general conclusion.

Echo chamber or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pieandcoffee.org/category/religion/%e1%bc%81%ce%b3%ce%b9%ce%bf%ce%b3%cf%81%ce%b1%cf%86%ce%af%ce%b1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cloud of witnesses&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Richard,</p>
<p>John Seymour is the leading intellectual heir of William Cobbett.</p>
<p>Land-value tax is in force now somewhere in the world due to <a href="http://www.pieandcoffee.org/2006/07/16/sunyatsen/" rel="nofollow">Sun Yat-sen</a>.</p>
<p>Karl Marx dealt with your 2.4 with the slightly different approach of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism" rel="nofollow">commodity fetish</a>, reaching a similar general conclusion.</p>
<p>Echo chamber or <a href="http://www.pieandcoffee.org/category/religion/%e1%bc%81%ce%b3%ce%b9%ce%bf%ce%b3%cf%81%ce%b1%cf%86%ce%af%ce%b1/" rel="nofollow">cloud of witnesses</a>?</p>
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		<title>Comment on What they didn&#8217;t teach us in high school about Saint Sun Yat-sen by Kaihsu Tai</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2006/07/16/sunyatsen/comment-page-1/#comment-650274</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaihsu Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He also went to the same high school as Obama, namely &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Punahou&lt;/a&gt; in Hawaiʻi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also went to the same high school as Obama, namely <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School" rel="nofollow">Punahou</a> in Hawaiʻi.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zhèng Bǎnqiáo (1693/1765), eco-socialist by Richard Lawson</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2007/06/27/zheng-banqiao/comment-page-1/#comment-650241</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zheng Banqiao shared the planet for 2 years with William Cobbett (1763–1835). Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zheng Banqiao shared the planet for 2 years with William Cobbett (1763–1835). Nice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Zhèng Bǎnqiáo (1693/1765), eco-socialist by Richard Lawson</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2007/06/27/zheng-banqiao/comment-page-1/#comment-650238</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2.1 The first rank of the economy relates to obtaining from our environment the necessities of life, namely

    * water
    * food
    * energy
    * housing
    * safe management of our waste products.

      All of these activities assume access to, and use of, a certain area of land. In non-slave societies, this access should be seen as a birthright for every person. It follows that each human has a notional right to a proportion of the Earth&#039;s surface. Therefore, anyone holding a plot of land is renting that plot from the rest of society. This is the basis of the Land (or Site) Value tax which is a core green tax.

2.2 Second rank activities of distribution, trade and manufacture of tools occur in any society, (as opposed to a single individual in a subsistence situation).

2.3 A tertiary rank evolves in a complex society, comprising administration and public services.

2.4 Finally, a quarternary rank consisting of financial services is useful in complex economies.

    Finance (money) is a symbol of value, a symbol that represents the power to obtain real goods and services. Money has no value in and of itself. Its purpose is to serve the smooth running of the economy, not to dominate it. Theories and practices that treat money as an entity are not sustainable in the long term as financial value drifts away from the ecological and social realities of life. So money is the fourth rank of the economy in green terms, although it is always ranked first in conventional terms.

    This difference underpins the difference between green and conventional economics.

http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/GreenEconom.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.1 The first rank of the economy relates to obtaining from our environment the necessities of life, namely</p>
<p>    * water<br />
    * food<br />
    * energy<br />
    * housing<br />
    * safe management of our waste products.</p>
<p>      All of these activities assume access to, and use of, a certain area of land. In non-slave societies, this access should be seen as a birthright for every person. It follows that each human has a notional right to a proportion of the Earth&#8217;s surface. Therefore, anyone holding a plot of land is renting that plot from the rest of society. This is the basis of the Land (or Site) Value tax which is a core green tax.</p>
<p>2.2 Second rank activities of distribution, trade and manufacture of tools occur in any society, (as opposed to a single individual in a subsistence situation).</p>
<p>2.3 A tertiary rank evolves in a complex society, comprising administration and public services.</p>
<p>2.4 Finally, a quarternary rank consisting of financial services is useful in complex economies.</p>
<p>    Finance (money) is a symbol of value, a symbol that represents the power to obtain real goods and services. Money has no value in and of itself. Its purpose is to serve the smooth running of the economy, not to dominate it. Theories and practices that treat money as an entity are not sustainable in the long term as financial value drifts away from the ecological and social realities of life. So money is the fourth rank of the economy in green terms, although it is always ranked first in conventional terms.</p>
<p>    This difference underpins the difference between green and conventional economics.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/GreenEconom.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/GreenEconom.htm</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Zhèng Bǎnqiáo (1693/1765), eco-socialist by Kaihsu Tai</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2007/06/27/zheng-banqiao/comment-page-1/#comment-649445</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaihsu Tai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1&#160;acre ≈ 4&#160;047&#160;m²</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1&nbsp;acre ≈ 4&nbsp;047&nbsp;m²</p>
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		<title>Comment on 508 #103: Clark University by Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2010/03/05/508-103-clark-university/comment-page-1/#comment-646538</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also -- was I the only one to hear &quot;cougar cab&quot; and think that Doug Chapel had a new business venture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8212; was I the only one to hear &#8220;cougar cab&#8221; and think that Doug Chapel had a new business venture?</p>
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		<title>Comment on 508 #103: Clark University by Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.PieAndCoffee.org/2010/03/05/508-103-clark-university/comment-page-1/#comment-646535</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my new request for the 508 podcast is:
More references to the album that contains &quot;Detachable Penis&quot;, especially since my husband has requested I not sing that song to our children, because then they sing it to other children.  And then the other parents assume that it&#039;s my husband teaching it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my new request for the 508 podcast is:<br />
More references to the album that contains &#8220;Detachable Penis&#8221;, especially since my husband has requested I not sing that song to our children, because then they sing it to other children.  And then the other parents assume that it&#8217;s my husband teaching it to them.</p>
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